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  • Hey Bebop! I saw that we have Moderator Positions open *wink* *wink* *nudge* *nudge*

    Haha. Anyways, I'd like to know the overall criteria (Unless its posted somewhere else and I just bugged you for no reason then sorry!)

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    • Great. You're now a discussion moderator! You can look at this page for more info on the tools you can use.

      You basically just need to watch out for ne'er-do-wells and delete anything inappropriate. Use our user conduct page as a guide. Generally, just be helpful and continue to do what you're doing. If anyone is being especially problematic, let me know and I can deal with them.

      We don't get a ton of comments or discussion posts these days, so you probably won't have to deal with much.

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    • Ah alright!

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  • I'll just take it out of the Bulldozer comments now since the rest does not belong there:

    Regarding the information you just gave me, this page will require some updates.

    That is the one I was using before for damage calculations.

    PS: Your message wall appears to be broken in Firefox. I can type a title but no body. Changed browsers for that now.

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  • Hi.

    I want to put a leader skill icon in my page but the editing set up was not the way it was to be. I don't know what is happening but the bottom line is that the leader skill that I want to portrait does not come out. There is a word "script error" that alwasy come out. Can you check my page? It's in the Arena Offense section. I was about to put Iris leader skill on it. TIA

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  • hello beboper, i wanna ask about how defense reduction works, specifically just wanna make sure if my math is right, so i got the data of mine according to "zayler defense mechanic in wiki"

    500 def reduce 50% damage (50% incoming damage)

    1000 def reduce 75% damage 

    1500 def reduce 82% damage

    2000 def reduce 86% damage

    2500 def reduce 88% damage

    3000 def reduce 90% damage

    3500 def reduce 91% damage (9% incoming damage)

    With the data above, i  conclude that achieving 2000 def is "good checkpoint" for def based tanker, and what surprised me tho, above 2000 (2500,3000 ~) the increasing of value is somewhat so low (around 2%) . and my question is : 1.  does my calculation right?

    2. 2000 def is checkpoint for def based tanker, how do you think?

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    • I believe the damage reduction formula is the following:

      Damage Reduction Factor = 1000 / (1140 + 3.5 * Defense)

      So with a defense of 2000, damage reduction is actually 88% rather than 86% (I'm assuming the discrepancy is because you haven't accounted for the inherent reduction factor of 1000/1140, which exists regardless of how much armor you have).

      As for what the ideal defense is, that will largely depend on what you're going for. For a defense based attacker like Copper or Bulldozer, you ideally want as much as you can handle with your current runes, as well as some crit damage to boost your damage. That means probably want defense closer to 3000 to maximize your potential damage.

      Now if you're asking just generally speaking for defense based monsters, I'd say anywhere between 2000 to 2500 is probably pretty decent. But again, that will depend on what you're capable of pulling off with your runes. You'll also want a decent amount of HP as well, because loading up on defense too much will result in diminishing returns in terms of damage reduction (as your calculations show), and will also make you more vulnerable to armor ignoring damage (Lushen, etc).

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    • I see, as i recall it.. The defense formula is +1000,but you have 1140 in your formula, but put that aside. So if it is about defense reduction, you are agreed if stacking more than 2000+ defense is kinda less effective? As shown above its just incrased 2% per 500 def. Then if my monster is already reached 2000 - 2500 def, instead of increasing more def, i better increasing my HP around 20k more. Anywwy, thank you for your great reply Beboper! Have a good day

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  • Unless someone's user profile page is locked(e.g. Yours) you can edit it. Are you going to fix that or what? Or are you going to leave it like that? Just want to know...

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    • As far as I know, there isn't really any easy way of bringing in site-wide protection for user pages (Finch has alluded to a solution, which I'm not personally aware of, and which sounds like it would be more trouble than it's worth). We only get access to a few select extensions on Wikia, and user page protection isn't one of them.

      And from experience, I've rarely ever had a problem with people vandalizing other people's user pages (the few examples usually stemming from vendettas/grudges from disgruntled users).

      If you're personally concerned about your user page being vandalized, I could lock it so only registered users can edit it. That won't necessarily stop all ne'er do wells, but it is a lot easier to identify and block people with accounts than anonymous internet trolls.

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    • K thx finch and beboper

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  • It seems that trolls and scammers are slowly appearing in the wiki.

    I´ll be raking their links when I spot them, and send you the links to the pages.

    Thats the only one right now. Seems like someone created a page, and then just typed out a long laugh.

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  • Hello Beboper,

    I'm new to wikia creation. I was wondering how you made the monster info box of summoners war? How did you format it to have tabs and also mini icon images?

    Thanks, Jackson

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    • Hey Jackson,

      Congrats on starting your first wiki! It can definitely be a daunting task, and there will be a lot of work in the initial going (and probably afterward as well). Let me know if you need any help with anything.

      Regarding the monster infoboxes, I made those out of a series of tables and div boxes. Unless you've got a good grasp of wikitext and HTML/CSS, it will probably be difficult for you to replicate something like that. If you're curious, you can find the template page here. You'll be able to look over the source code there.

      Is there anything in particular that you're hoping to use infoboxes for? Perhaps something simpler would help suit your needs. I can help you get started on something for the early going, and you'll be able to expand on it should you need to.

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    • Thanks man! I'm slowly learning. I am overwhelmed...

      I know html, css, and js. I just don't know where to type them. Like for example, I click the CSS in the admin dashboard, MediaWiki:Wikia.css. I don't know which element to target. like where to type my div tags. do I have to debug(f12) and manually check which elements are those? or is there a way to code CSS with wiki-text?

      I also tried editing the template and all I get is a vertical one. How do I customize it? My plan was to create a character template. like
      Legion war unit template
       this one. this is my mockup.

      How do I create a navigation in the infobox template like the one in summoners war [main Info][Build/teams][Gallery/Trivia]

      How do I add mini-icons likes the skill icons of summoenrs war with description.

      Btw, do you play SW? which server are you on? What's your rank?

      Edit: Is the CSS inline with wiki-text as the markup? I've been bindging on YT for awhile looking for tutorials.

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    • Integrating CSS into the wiki is very easy. It's not all that different from a regular website. As I'm sure you know, CSS can be added two ways. You can create classes in a separate CSS file (Mediawiki:Wikia.css would act as your CSS file), customize them, and then reference those classes in HTML. You can also add CSS directly in HTML through in-line styling. Or you can do a bit of both.

      So say you want to create an infobox template. As I'm sure you're aware, there are two main ways to organize/style content on a webpage. You can either use tables or you can use div containers and position them with CSS. Tables are easy to work with, but modern web design standards discourage the use of tables for web design, since they can be restrictive in terms of overall flow and aesthetics, and they pose a problem for an increasingly mobile based web (wide tables in particular will create issues on small screens). Hence, divs are the way to go these days, since its possible to create flexible and responsive layouts that can adjust to different screen dimensions, while maintaining exact control over your styling and positioning. My own monster box on this site uses a mixture of both, depending on what I feel is appropriate for any given situation.

      I've created two relatively simply infoboxes on this test template just to give you an idea of how both approaches would look. All CSS styling has been done in-line, so you can look at it without using the browser console. I could save some coding by using classes, but that requires having access to your wiki's Wikia.css file (only admin have access to that). But the two boxes should give you an idea of how to set up your own special template.

      Now, if you take a look at my example, you'll notice that the first box (which is table based) is not using the normal table tags for HTML. Rather, the table has been generated using wikitext markup. That is because Wikia (the all might overlords) has decided not to allow many kinds of HTML tags, mostly ones that already have an equivalent in wikitext. You can get a fuller explanation of wikitext on this page (for tables) and this page (general).

      Now, one thing to keep in mind with templates is that if you want to be able to have input fields, you'll need to add parameters (the example I made lacks them). More info can be found here. And of course, you can add images and all that to your template as well (just use normal wikitext for that). Same with links too. Just position the images in your table cells/div containers, and position them with CSS.

      As for the navigation used on this site, I basically just create custom images on my PC, then I upload them to the wiki. Afterwards, I basically just put them into table cells, and attach links to them. Then I add some CSS styling just for aesthetics. This is a rather roundabout aproach, and you may be better off using Wikia's own build in tabber system. I've done it this way here just for compatibility with mobile and such.

      Apologies for the rather long explanation, but I wasn't quite sure what your knowledge level was with basic HTML/CSS and wikitext. I wanted to be as thorough as I could. Do take a look at the example I made up, just so you can get a better idea of how you could go about setting something up. Let me know if any of this made sense to you. I can try to walk you through this a bit more if you're still lost and confused.

      The main thing to take away is that knowledge builds upon knowledge. If you understand how HTML/CSS works, and you understand how wikitext works, then combining them is actually really quite easy. Wikitext will replace much of the HTML tags you would have used, but inputting CSS is really quite simple.

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    • WOW! thanks a lot! :D

      It's not that long. You've given me what I've been looking for a week now. You even made an info box template with inline CSS. 

      This is great man. thanks again! :D

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